Chilling footage of journalists getting shot in Iraq

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By Nima Maghame and Rebecca Bowe

On July 12th, 2007 two apache helicopters attacked the small suburb of Al-Amin, Iraq. More than two dozen people were killed, including two Reuters journalists, driver assistant Saeed Chmagh and war photographer Namir Noor-Eldeen.

And the entire incident was recorded on video -- from the helicopters.

Reuters demanded an investigation in the summer of 2007, and asked for copies of the video the choppers took. The government refused. But after three years, a copy of the video has finally been released -- through Wikileaks. The chilling footage shows the helicopters firing on seemingly unsuspecting Iraqi civilians -- and includes the helicopter crews’s comment, which are even more chilling.

It’s as if the gunners were playing a video game, as if they didn’t consider the people on the ground to be living human beings. “Oh, look at those dead bastards,” one crewman says. At another point, the gunners -- who aren’t allowed to fire at unarmed targets -- practically beg a wounded man to pick up a weapon so they can finish him off. And when the man gets into a van that arrives to help him, they ask for permission to open fire: “Come on, let us shoot!”

The U.S. Military released a memo explaining that the actions taken by the soldiers were in accordance with its own Rules of Engagement.

 

The 17-minute video was posted online at Wikileaks.org, an investigative Web site that publicizes sensitive documents and
information leaked by anonymous sources in order to expose corruption and wrongdoing. Wikileaks obtained the footage "from a number of military whistleblowers," according to a description accompanying the footage on the Web site CollateralMurder.com. Wikileaks editors had to decode the encrypted version of the leaked video in order to view its contents and air it.

In the video, when shooters inside the helicopter start to zero in on the pedestrians below, they can be heard identifying the objects they are carrying as an AK-47 and an RPG. But according to an Associated Press article quoting an unnamed U.S. military official, "a military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK-47."

Reuters stopped short --- way, way short -- of making a big issue of the killings. “The deaths of Namir Noor-Eldeen and Saeed Chmagh three years ago were tragic and emblematic of the extreme dangers that exist in covering war zones,” said David Schlesinger, editor-in-chief of Reuters news We continue to work for journalist safety and call on all involved parties to recognise the important work that journalists do and the extreme danger that photographers and video journalists face in particular.”

David Finkle wrote about the incident in his 2009 book The Good Soldiers. Finkle, who was following military personnel in charge of training Iraqi national forces, had only been a few streets away when the attack took place. The author had also been friends with Noor-Eldeen and Chmang.

Finkle wrote that both Reuters staff were working independently -- that is, they weren’t officially embedded with the U.S. forces -- and he claims that's is why the military didn’t know of their existence. “There had been reports of sniper rifle, rooftop chases, and rocket-propelled grenades being fired at Bravo Company, and as the fighting continued, it attracted the attention of Namir Noor-Eldeen, a 22-year-old photographer for Reuters news agency who lived in Baghdad, and Saeed Chmangh, 40, his driver and assistant,” wrote Finkle, who was close to where the Apaches attacked but not an eyewitness.

“There was a one-second pause and then came the fourth burst. In the cloud, NE could be seen trying to stand, and then he simply seemed to explode,” wrote Finkle. Chmang tried to stand up and run away before falling down again. The video's audio picked up two of the drivers urging Chmang to arm himself so they can kill him.

“Come on, buddy” says one driver. “All you gotta do is pick up a weapon,” says the other driver.

A Kia passenger van stopped by Chmang and attempted to rescue him. The helicopters radioed for permission to fire on the van and received confirmation just as Chmang was being helped into the van. The soldiers blasted the van just as it started to roll away.

Two children were wounded in the attack as well, and were evacuated by US. Military personnel.

Comments

Disgusting and hard to watch. At no time in the video did the people on the ground come across as threatening... it seemed like the helicopters were stalking around searching for someone, anyone to shoot.

quote: "We've shot an amazing number of people and killed a number and, to my knowledge, none has proven to have been a real threat to the force."

The comments came during a virtual town hall with troops in Afghanistan after one asked McChrystal to comment on the "escalation of force" problem. The general responded that, in the nine months he had been in charge, none of the cases in which "we have engaged in an escalation of force incident and hurt someone has it turned out that the vehicle had a suicide bomb or weapons in it."
- Gen. McChrystal

The comments came during a virtual town hall with troops in Afghanistan after one asked McChrystal to comment on the "escalation of force" problem.

Posted by Guest thomas paine on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 7:48 pm

fyi, they did confirm the presence of RPG's and AK47's at the site.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

Which is why you can trust Reuters for not making quite so big of a deal about it's own reporters' deaths, but not so much the San Francisco Guardian, which will intentionally neglect that rather important part of the story.

Posted by n on Apr. 07, 2010 @ 11:41 am

"Important"?

Even if there were AK-47s there, how does that justify the actions of that helicopter gun crew? No one was using those AK-47s against anybody else.

Posted by Stephen on Apr. 08, 2010 @ 2:03 am

Fucking right! Thousands of coalition forces have been murdered by terrorists for trying to bring democracy to savages. These morons were walking around a war-zone with instruments resembling weapons, in groups of 10 to 15 people, what the hell did they expect to happen? And as far as children being injured, why the fuck did those terrorists bastards bring them to a gun battle?! Those backward terrorist savages deserved what they got, try sheading a tear for a real hero, faggot!

Posted by Geoff on Feb. 17, 2011 @ 4:39 pm
wow

it seems like with every day the passes i become more and more ashamed to say i am an american, the people doing the shooting in the helicopter and anyone else involved should all be charged with murder.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 13, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

Wow, then move to Iraq you idiot! It's war damn it! People don't sit around singing "Love Train" around a camp fire. These radical messengers of Islam bring only death to non muslims, you think they give a crap about our children or un armed men? Hell no! Grow up you wimp! Or get the heck out of Dodge, better yet, move to Pelosi's best town of San Francisco...you should fit right in! Ashamed to be American? I'm ashamed you are American, you ungrateful nincumpoop!

Posted by Guest on Apr. 13, 2010 @ 8:09 pm

Yes, your right and all those people are dead because of you, and those like you

Posted by Guest on Jul. 01, 2010 @ 12:19 am

An Eye For An Eye And The Whole World Goes Blind. Translation For The Illiterate: If They Kill Unarmed Men Woman And Children Of The U.S. Why Would We Do The Same To Them? What Good Would It Do? It Wouldn't Make Us A Better Country That's For Sure. And If Anyone's Ashamed To Be An American Then It Because Fools Like You Are Destroying The Reputation Of Our Country. But Then Again I Cant Even Remember What That Is Exactly.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 17, 2010 @ 9:19 pm

You are what's wrong with America. How do you think the rest of the world views us when this is how we conduct ourselves in war? Our military projects the image of a hoard of careless, trigger-happy kids itching to kill something. Our country cannot go it alone, despite what you stubborn, ignorant, asshole rednecks may believe. What will happen when we need the help of other nations? To you specifically and personally: fuck you.

Posted by Guest on Aug. 27, 2010 @ 6:40 pm

I agree with you i wouldnt go as far as to say im ashamed to be american but the constant war that this country seems to depend on ashames me the fact that someone can be cold and laugh when he says that someones body was just run over is ridiculous im sick of this country

Posted by Guest on Mar. 13, 2011 @ 7:14 pm

you have to be kidding me! clearly this video shows reporters who obviously have very close ties with terrorists. they walk down the street like old buds, some with cameras some with ak47s and rpg's. as the chopper rounds the building the first or second time you can clearly see a man trying to get a shot. the way he creeps around the corner and raises the weapon shows ill intent. hes positioning himself to take a shot and still be able to flee while the choppers view is obstructed by the building. now when the chopper comes back around the men are all huddled up trying to conceal the rpg. why were the men walking with a destination yet after hitting the corner they huddle and head in the other direction (hhhmmm). now if i were an insurgent and wanted to not get shot i might do some thing crazy like stand next to someone my enemy wont shoot, say a photographer or child.
speaking of children who other then a terrible person is going to drive their van with "their" kids in it directly into the fire zone of a chopper? heres the kicker why would you make your kids face out the window on the side the chopper just so happens to be on. if you look close the men sure are looking at the chopper but the children have no idea its their. why are they so intently postured in the window like that? well the most probable reason is they were told to buy an adult/parent. THEY WERE SHIELDS!!!! what does all this tell you? i believe they were 100% justified in their actions, i believe that war isnt pretty inocent people get hurt, i believe that you should watch the video from an objective point of view instead of simply reading the text and thinking just what they tell you to. i do not mean to offend only enlighten.

Posted by Guest on Mar. 09, 2011 @ 10:30 pm
Posted by Guest on Mar. 09, 2011 @ 10:52 pm

your editing is so bad it s hard to take you serious. You should learn the difference between it's and its. That's is (!) too bad. Plus the use of commas is bad at best.
I am disappointed. This used to be a good example of alternative journalism.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 7:49 pm

and you don't seem to know the difference between adjectives and adverbs. dimwit.

a well-written article about a very inflammatory subject.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 8:30 pm

If you actually watch the video, you can see a AK-47 in one shot. So why lie in print? For fun? For drama of lies?

Also, someone is kneeling around a corner with what looks to be a weapon aimed at the helicopters.

Who and why are people rushing to the scene picking up bodies with children in the car? What kind of people bring kids to a battlefield? Why are these questions not being asked? Oh, because the US Military is a easy target for the media and the cheap oil you power your lives with is not thought of. We buy up Iraq's oil and no one bats an eye or clamors for change there. Everything in your life is built around plastics and fossil fuels, when will you wake up and realize this unfortunate war was nesasary for keeping world peace for a while longer. It will come to an end and Mad Max will come true, but until that day, we are living the dream........

Posted by Guest on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 8:00 pm

you dont seem to understand.. the "battlefield" is someones fucking home, and i didnt see one ak-47 or rpg, it was a fucking camera. US soldiers kills civilians, you fucking rednecks shouldnt be allowed to even have a gun u trigger happy psychos.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 08, 2010 @ 11:27 pm
WOW

Took two people to write and you missed the AK-47 in the screen? Yes and they guy crouching down looking like he going to fire....

come on.

Posted by Guest Matt davis on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 8:11 pm

I don't see an AK47, but if there is...doesn't anybody with an interest in self-protection carry a weapon? I thought it was common there. It is not exactly a safe place.

And regarding the guy about to "fire" a camera....do this much cited "Rules of engagement" say "kill everyone who appears from long distance to have any object whatsoever in his hand?"

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:42 pm

Holy shit seriously!???? Look self protection is logical but you don't need an ASSAULT RIFLE, yes they don't SEEM harmless but maybe that's because no non-muslims are around? Even if they were just having a social gathering and weapons were MISTAKENLY witnessed, These brave men in iraq see weapons people dying, dead children every horror you can imagine they see that shit every day, so don't you dare talk shit about any of them, gruesome tactics are neccesary in warfare, Besides if those men would have blown up something or killed some troups those men in the chopper would have been to blame because they didn't fire upon them when they had the chance, the video said weapons were found on the scene, what does a photographer need with RPG's and AK-47's? God get your head out of your ass, you feel so sorry for those bastards dying there, everyone who's died in terrorist attacks here ON AMERICAN SOIL were innocent, they did absolutely nothing... what about that journalist who got his head fucking chopped off with a machete? did you see that video??? Oh maybe not because you're to busy feeling bad for a bunch of heathens to see what damage and greef they've caused to us as a nation!!!!!!

Posted by Guest on Jul. 27, 2010 @ 3:05 am

the people who committed the acts of terror you clumsily refer to above were not from Iraq.  Also, I would think thousands of Iraqis for no reason actually caused them "greef"? 

Posted by marke on Jul. 27, 2010 @ 7:17 am

^^^^ Whatever, at least he got it out there. Nuff said.

On another note, I'm ashamed and disgusted at this shit. These are the kind of people who are representing our country over there? Sad.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 8:24 pm

Guest Matt: The battle took place in the middle of a suburb of Baghdad. The media interviewed the driver of the driver of the van, her two children were inside. He was taking them to class that morning, and the route went through the intersection where the shooting took place. As you can see in the video's start, this is a flat area of Baghdad, he had no way to see in advance that he was entering a firefight. He was just trying to get his kids to school. He was a good samaritan who stopped when he saw a man lying in the road, shot. He tried to help him but putting him to the van, and paid with his life.

He wasn't bringing his kids into the battle, just minutes after it happened, he probably never heard the gunfire. The US Army brought the battle to the road he was traveling on.

Also, AK47s are legal to carry in Baghdad, if you actually served there, you would already know that fact. Just because people carry them, doesn't mean they are insurgents. Massacres of innocents by partisans, insurgents, and islamic fundamentalists were rampant and people packed AK47's to protect themselves - not to fight the Americans.

At no point is an AK 47 fired, and the claimed RPG was a telefoto lens, obvious to the civilians commenting on most of the sites posting this video. I think the helos saw what they wanted to see, but there was no hostile fire. We'll never know if those men were really insurgents, or just civilians. But they didn't act like insurgents, they were not taking up defensive positions, or firing weapons, they were mingling in an open area, chatting with the journalists. Perhaps they were just civilians warning the journalists to stay away from trigger happy Americans.

Posted by Jayne on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 10:41 pm

Guest Matt: The battle took place in the middle of a suburb of Baghdad. The media interviewed the driver of the driver of the van, her two children were inside. He was taking them to class that morning, and the route went through the intersection where the shooting took place. As you can see in the video's start, this is a flat area of Baghdad, he had no way to see in advance that he was entering a firefight. He was just trying to get his kids to school. He was a good samaritan who stopped when he saw a man lying in the road, shot. He tried to help him but putting him to the van, and paid with his life.

He wasn't bringing his kids into the battle, just minutes after it happened, he probably never heard the gunfire. The US Army brought the battle to the road he was traveling on.

Also, AK47s are legal to carry in Baghdad, if you actually served there, you would already know that fact. Just because people carry them, doesn't mean they are insurgents. Massacres of innocents by partisans, insurgents, and islamic fundamentalists were rampant and people packed AK47's to protect themselves - not to fight the Americans.

At no point is an AK 47 fired, and the claimed RPG was a telefoto lens, obvious to the civilians commenting on most of the sites posting this video. I think the helos saw what they wanted to see, but there was no hostile fire. We'll never know if those men were really insurgents, or just civilians. But they didn't act like insurgents, they were not taking up defensive positions, or firing weapons, they were mingling in an open area, chatting with the journalists. Perhaps they were just civilians warning the journalists to stay away from trigger happy Americans.

Posted by Jayne on Apr. 05, 2010 @ 10:42 pm

I wish theses people will never come to "save" my country

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 2:38 am

It was a warn zone, mistakes happen and people die, I see no fault from the soldiers, they asked and received permission to fire, they followed the rules of engagement. AK-47s might be legal in Iraq, but they can take down a helicopter, I would rather have our troopers firing on suspected insurgents, then being shot down every time they second guess themselves. In war you can't second guess, that gets people killed, they did what they were taught to do, it was a mistake, a mistake they will be living with the rest of their lives, which probably is tough enough without everybody crucifying them for it.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 4:28 am

Reuters independent journalists are locals who have access to the people Reuters wants interviewed. If the press wants the insurgents' side, they pay these folks for access to that. Often they have links to nefarious people, and whether their allegiance is with the Multi-National Force or the insurgents, they are paid for their contributions. That said, these journalists were in an area where an engagement with American forces on the ground had recently occurred, and at least 3 of the men in the video (who were not labeled as the journalists) had weapons. If that met the criteria for Rules of Engagement (carrying weapons in an engagement area), and it appears to, then the mission was completely above board. As a military helo pilot, the footage of the man ducking behind the building and raising a tube toward the camera gave me chills - my mind registers RPG at a minimum and the red flags go up - it is time for action, not hesitation, and you are looking to be cleared hot. They got permission from HHQ and lit them up. The discussion you hear on the intercom and radio are part of battle. It is not pretty, but combat is not a pretty job. Remember that the military is the political arm of our government, and when sent, the military will execute the job effectively and efficiently. Killing people is not PC. You don't want to get shot, don't lurk around corners with armed men in a combat zone, period.
If you don't like what you see, contact your Congressmen and Senators about our involvement in any campaign. The military personnel are doing the job they were sent to do, within the rules and guidelines that are set from the President on down. And they are doing a fantastic job making liaison with local leaders and people in Iraq and Afghanistan, protecting those who stand against the insurgency and terrorism - a point which does not get mentioned often in the press.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 5:41 am

So a couple of journalists embedded with terrorists killing Americans got wiped out...congrats to the shooters! A couple of terrorists in training got shot up in a terrorist rescue attempt...congrats to the shooters!

Everyone on scene who died got what was coming to them...pick up a weapon and you will get what you are trying to give in return.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 6:12 am

Based on what are they "terrorists?" I don't know the Apache's camera telephoto setting, but you can tell from the rate that the helicopter circles the site that it is not very far away from the guys. Ergo, the guys clearly saw it. So why are a bunch of so-called "terrorists" strolling down the street nonchalantly while an Apache circles them?

They are either innocent or all completely deaf and blind.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:45 pm

youre an idiot.you can tell the copter is a quite a distance away because it take about 5 seconds from time of firing to the time the bullets strike.in mini gun time thats an eternity.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 07, 2010 @ 6:10 am

Ok so then if they were so far away and didn't know that the chopper was there then why do you guys believe that the man was aiming an RPG at the chopper???

Posted by Lloyd on Apr. 07, 2010 @ 9:05 pm

Thank you.....

Posted by Guest on Apr. 07, 2010 @ 11:24 am

Typical american moron who thinks human lives except american ones have no value. Get a brain and an education, and while you're at it, get a backpack and goto see the world by yourself, at least you will learn something about human value.
That sucks to be you.

Posted by Guest on Jan. 05, 2011 @ 12:34 am

The video says it all. That was so wrong, so shameful. I am horrified that the military could be so careless. What good can they do with actions and attitudes like that. It is clear that with a little more attention they could see the cameras and long lenses and the children in the van. Surely, following the van would be chosen before shooting it? madness. How can we support our troops when crazy stuff like this has to be ignored, covered up? Sick and wrong.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 6:28 am

You are an idiot. I suppose next time the Apache pilots should land, interview the suspects and then if they are deemed dangerous take back off and shoot them?

Nope...raise a weapon against America or Americans and prepare to experience the worst day in the rest of your life.

Hoowa!

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 7:36 am

you're the kind of fool who is at the root of the problem.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 11:59 am

It is shocking, but what is more shocking is these two twits, using this story for sensationalism.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 6:55 am

This breaks my heart. I'm shaking with anger. This is sick and evil. I am a Marine who served in the infantry. I just don't know what to say about those pilots and our sick psychotic culture we live in here. Our government and military will do their usual and just say that they were justified by the rules of war. Nothing justifies any of our actions in their country. Innocent people are being murdered and our men and woman are sent to die in a war of imperialistic aggression. Our country is losing its soul, its humanity, through apathy and a sick sense of patriotism. THERE ARE VERY FEW THINGS WORTH FIGHTING TO THE DEATH FOR, defense or your lands, defense of your people, defense of yourself, and defense of your individual human freedom. These actions taken by our pilots are war crimes, and crimes against humanity, and goes against all aspects of the america that our fathers founded.
Sadly Semper Fi

Posted by Guest tim gallien on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 7:51 am

You all should be ashamed!!! My son and many sons and daughters are overthere fighting for the freedom of Iraq. Our soldiers are being killed daily deffending freedom. Were the acts done in WW1 and WW2 against humanity? No. We went to help when terrorist of that time (Nazis) were attacking the freedom of most of Europe. Where innoccent people killed? Yes! War is Hell! For people to speek so badly of the men and women who are away from there families fighting and dying, is an sin. As far as this so called Marine who is so angry. Sounds to me that you are in the wrong line of work. Semper Fi, you are not!!

Posted by Guest Mother of Military on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 6:53 pm

This breaks my heart. I'm shaking with anger. This is sick and evil. I am a Marine who served in the infantry. I just don't know what to say about those pilots and our sick psychotic culture we live in here. Our government and military will do their usual and just say that they were justified by the rules of war. Nothing justifies any of our actions in their country. Innocent people are being murdered and our men and woman are sent to die in a war of imperialistic aggression. Our country is losing its soul, its humanity, through apathy and a sick sense of patriotism. THERE ARE VERY FEW THINGS WORTH FIGHTING TO THE DEATH FOR, defense or your lands, defense of your people, defense of yourself, and defense of your individual human freedom. These actions taken by our pilots are war crimes, and crimes against humanity, and goes against all aspects of the america that our fathers founded.
Sadly Semper Fi

Posted by Guest tim gallien on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 7:52 am

You are not a United States Marine. No Marine would write what you wrote. Climb back into your cave Osama.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 8:15 am

Basically the only things worth fighting to the death over have been taken away by the government...
I don't want to think that one through to it's conclusion. I know what it means and what it calls for.
What will happen to Americans if they try to take back what is ours is what is happening to Iraqi's
Capitalism isn't freedom anymore it is the rule of money
Not a lot of people know it but Communism and Socialism are 2 of several possible interpretations or expressions of Capitalism...so is Fascism, religious governance and Monarchy...all are Capitalist in as much as they are different models of the rule of wealth and privilege over the poor.

What people hold in their mind when politicians speak of Capitalism is a free market distributive economy where the rules are minimalist and the same for everyone and there is no centralized control of the economy and if you don't like the law in one state you have a choice to live in another. You are under the protection of the law- free to do as you will as long as it does not harm another and the governors are bound under the rule of law- may only do as the law provides.
In such a Capitalist state the flag does not follow... the law is of the land. The burden of the law is bound to the jurisdiction and only what occurs in it and applies to the land.
It is "The law of the land" not "The law on the man"
When people hear Capitalism they think freedom even though Capitalism is slavery to the rule of wealth... because they have been told slavery is freedom and freedom is crazy talk and dangerous

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 1:42 pm

"SADLY SEMPER FI" Are you frickin' kidding me??? 0300.... have you ever served in combat??? Are you a basket weaver in the rear claiming to be a war hero against the war... but you actually never did a damn thing?? If you did, I appologize... we are all intitaled to our own opinions. I bent over backwards to make sure that all civilians are taken care of. What was your MOS (actual mos, not just 0300)? When did you serve? Where did you serve? Sadly Semper Fi! You are a reject... did you get kicked out of bootcamp or something? I didn't get offended by your feelings, but your "sadly semper fi" statement.

PROUDLY!!!!!! SEMPER FI!!!!!

Posted by Guest on Apr. 13, 2010 @ 6:16 pm

The people in the helicopter are evil. The next Tim McVeigh may come from among them. They must be put down like the mad dogs that they are.

Posted by Guest R on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 8:19 am

Is the attitude of the soldiers in the Apache. I wasn't there, I can't tell you if the people on the ground with AK-47s were bodyguards, or people carrying weapons in self-defense, or insurgents who were ready to shoot down the helicopter (although the latter seems unlikely; the Apache is circling the area for a while, and nobody seems to be paying any attention to it).

What gets me is the way the U.S. military men talk -- as if they desperately wanted to shoot somebody, as if those human lives didn't matter. As if it were just a game, and the number of "kills" got you bonus points.

It's one thing to know you have to kill in self-defense or as part of a military operation. It's another to seem to enjoy it, to beg for more people to shoot.

A friend of mine says the worst thing that ever happened to human society was the invention of the crossbow -- it allowed you to kill someone from such a distance that you didn't have to see him as another person. That's what's going on here. It's a little scary.

Posted by tim on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 9:15 am

Exactly, the attitude is shocking.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:36 pm

This kind of thing is bound to happen. Can someone remind me why US forces are there in the first place? I couldn't quite follow Bush's "explanation of the week" program.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:34 pm

All through the video I never saw a weapon. If they can't tell the difference between a camera and a gun, God help us and they ones who laughed when they say the dead. Shame on them.

Posted by Guest on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:37 pm
war

Sorry we see this but we are at war and this kind of things happen, Feel sorry for all. This is the price we pay for are freedom. put yourself in that chopper and then put yourself on the ground they all no what can and will happen.
It will happen at home again 911 just give it time. We will do are best to defend are country. GOD BLESS USA.

Posted by Guest bear214 on Apr. 06, 2010 @ 12:52 pm

er, Iraq had nothing to do with 911, and I'm pretty sure if we hadn't invaded that country by pure choice (and our wonderful American confusion over what brown people are what) then we'd be safer. Thanks and goddess bless.

Posted by marke on Apr. 07, 2010 @ 6:55 am